Thursday, March 12, 2009

Re: [PDI] qualogistics@aol.com

Each to his own.

"Bad words"? The Neo-Cons and the Born Agains will be trying to ban "strong language" again, just as their predecessors banned booze.

You are completely welcome to your weak tea.

They were many problems with Clinton (the attack on Serbia, for example, and getting rid of long-term bonds), and another was his tendency to lie and mollify.

If he had just stood up to the American people and said, "Yeah, I had a blow job in the White House, and that's my business", he would not have been impeached and the US would be a much different place.

Instead you got Bush, who did not even win a majority, and walked into the office like he owned the whole country, with Cheney telling you all to go fuck yourselves.

The Right Wing are the distilled esssence of hypocrisy, honed for centuries in the US.

You are letting them define the game.

One Goerge Carlin is worth a thousand Al Frankens.

"Majority"--what majority did Bush have?  Seventy per cent of the electorate wanted out of Iraq and thought Bush was a moron.

And what do you get midterm--Pelosi?

What a joke.

I stand by what I said about Franken, and the way I said it.

Abbie Hoffman was a brilliant man, and the closest thing to Tom Paine that has existed in the US since 1776.

Have a nice day.

EAC

L'observation consiste simplement
en l'intérêt jubilant montré par l'enfant
à la vue de sa propre image dans un miroir....


--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Ron Weiner <ronweiner1@comcast.net> wrote:
From: Ron Weiner <ronweiner1@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [PDI] qualogistics@aol.com
To: "Gene Costa" <costaeugene@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:50 PM

Gary's point that "...while there's presently no prohibition
against
so-called "bad words" on this list, be aware that use of them is
likely to
put off some people who might otherwise be inclined to listen to you..."
is
very well-said.

And that's what my response to Costa (F Al Franken) was all about.

I'm done.

Ron Weiner

-----Original Message-----
From: pdi-bounces@illinoisprogressives.org
[mailto:pdi-bounces@illinoisprogressives.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kleppe
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:40 AM
To: ronweiner1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [PDI] qualogistics@aol.com

Not to put too fine a point on it, but... knock it off, guys.

If you feel supporting Franken is the best use of your time and/or
money, then go for it. If not, then rather than tear down someone
else's idea, try finding and suggesting alternatives. There are
single-payer bills at both the federal and state level which need to
be pushed. We still have two wars to end. And township and municipal
elections are April 7; look around in your area to see if there are
candidates you think you can trust. (Personally I'm biased toward this
slate: http://www.yorkdemocrats.org/elections.php)

It's easy to tear down and hard to build up. Telling each other how
*not* to spend our time is not a productive use of our time.

Also, while there's presently no prohibition against so-called "bad
words" on this list, be aware that use of them is likely to put off
some people who might otherwise be inclined to listen to you.


-Gary Kleppe, list moderator
-do as I say, not....

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